tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post1452551901194396639..comments2023-10-07T05:29:20.923-07:00Comments on McClatchy Watch: Headline of the day at the Kansas City StarUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-18352933116205134432009-04-05T13:50:00.000-07:002009-04-05T13:50:00.000-07:00Only someone who has never had to write 30 to 50 h...Only someone who has never had to write 30 to 50 headlines in a day would be ass enough to think headline writers sit around trying to deliberately misleadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-7135176034887118442009-04-05T13:35:00.000-07:002009-04-05T13:35:00.000-07:00Thank you, Diane, for writing columns that were in...Thank you, Diane, for writing columns that were inspiring and helpful to me when I did not have a job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-27110930515312604562009-04-04T22:24:00.000-07:002009-04-04T22:24:00.000-07:00Look and see how many times the new alternative he...Look and see how many times the new alternative headline (if there even is one) fits the specs ... like almost never!<BR/><BR/>---------------------<BR/>Give me a break. It doesn't take a literary genius to at least make the headline reflect the story...like almost ALWAYS.<BR/><BR/>Case in point, yesterday....<BR/><BR/>Headline: Iowa Supreme Court Legalizes Gay Marriage<BR/><BR/>False and intentionally misleading as the Iowa supreme court doe not have the authority to make law. <BR/><BR/>Is it easy to correct. Child's play, but that was not the intent was it. The intent was to mislead...period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-34860201185466826942009-04-04T11:28:00.000-07:002009-04-04T11:28:00.000-07:00As a headline writer, here's my favorite part when...As a headline writer, here's my favorite part when someone goes around blasting your effort:<BR/><BR/>Look and see how many times the new alternative headline (if there even is one) fits the specs ... like almost never!<BR/><BR/>I had a reader criticize my headline once in a letter to the editor; the reader went on to suggest what it should have said. It was about as long as the lead of the story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-2566772673879416402009-04-03T15:12:00.000-07:002009-04-03T15:12:00.000-07:00I see your point. Hedline writing is, indeed, an a...I see your point. Hedline writing is, indeed, an art form because we have to write to fit the specs. For example, if "environment" won't fit in the space, we use "climate" instead. It's more difficult than you think. But I know, for me, I always tried to write the hed to complement the story. If a slot or chief wanted to change one of my heds and I disagreed, I would state my case. But ultimately, it is the news editor's call on heds, decks and cutlines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-18353984755659883802009-04-03T11:48:00.000-07:002009-04-03T11:48:00.000-07:00I am not looking for a line of attack. It seems to...I am not looking for a line of attack. It seems to me they have done more damage to themselves than I could ever imagine. <BR/><BR/>I was just curious who actually wrote the headlines because from my perspective, some of the greatest dishonesty in our daily paper seems to come directly from headlines that are contrary to the body of the text. Intentionally misleading the reader or more pointedly misleading someone who might only read the headline and the first sentence or two.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-16054485174414265722009-04-03T11:34:00.000-07:002009-04-03T11:34:00.000-07:009:27: Yes, copy editors, slots and copy chiefs ar...9:27: Yes, copy editors, slots and copy chiefs are the ones who clean up copy, cut copy to fit, and write heds, decks and cutlines. But no, we are not the ones who actually write the stories. You're best line of attack is go for the assigning editors and their reporters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-72017987309774441982009-04-03T11:15:00.000-07:002009-04-03T11:15:00.000-07:00Any party that elects Joe Biden to be Vice Preside...Any party that elects Joe Biden to be Vice President probably ought not be chucking rocks at any other candidate from any other party.<BR/><BR/>Just sayin'. The Chia Pet vote is secure. Stand up Chuck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-11329580213944195212009-04-03T11:14:00.000-07:002009-04-03T11:14:00.000-07:00“And this in the end is all that really matters Rh...“And this in the end is all that really matters Rhonda. Your rambling bleeds through where ever you go. Might I suggest an MRI?”<BR/>--<BR/>Oh, oh, you brought the beast into the conversation. Who knows what that will start?<BR/>It’s like a nautical word, it sometimes opens up the comedy club.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-21940490567265079372009-04-03T11:08:00.000-07:002009-04-03T11:08:00.000-07:00So right, “Actually you came off as condescending,...So right, “Actually you came off as condescending, arrogant”<BR/><BR/>I don’t think the new media blogs are your thing. Popular blog comments I read are straightforward, posters swear, flame, and all manner of writing styles emerge, which readers seem to enjoy. Laying old words on us just makes YOU old and out-of-date. We don’t have the time, nor the inclination to go ‘back in the day’ with those of you that are fossilized already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-14692491312116530002009-04-03T11:01:00.000-07:002009-04-03T11:01:00.000-07:00But of course, I'm a former member of the "liberal...But of course, I'm a former member of the "liberal elite" media.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>And this in the end is all that really matters Rhonda. Your rambling bleeds through where ever you go. Might I suggest an MRI?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-34576364642814304172009-04-03T10:36:00.000-07:002009-04-03T10:36:00.000-07:00Wait - you go on and on about Diane and her writin...Wait - you go on and on about Diane and her writing and the content of her columns, and then write you don't read her columns? Huh? <BR/>-----------<BR/>Her column was highlighted to illustrate how biased and in-the-tank the Red Scar had become. Most writers would not want that distinction, but when you are going down the drain, integrity means nothing. That is why she and others like her must go. She didn’t change for that one column, she was always that way. Sad person, way sad person, that she has become.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-20917331216593308002009-04-03T10:14:00.000-07:002009-04-03T10:14:00.000-07:00"Diane Stafford is a leftist old hag. It always lo..."Diane Stafford is a leftist old hag. It always looks like she writes her Schmaltz after reading a couple of junk reports from her comrades. What she knows about business is what other leftists anti-business jerks write. I think she reads a couple of trash items from eggheads that have never held a real job, regurgitates the same old line, and goes to press. I have not read anything she writes for a long time, who does? She writes nothing from firsthand knowledge it seemed to me. She is just like the rest of the great pretenders, fill in the blank writing, no one will know the difference. Her column degrading another woman was disgusting, for all women, and journalists alike.<BR/><BR/>A bag full of gas might one day fly off into the air, or get fired, one can only hope."<BR/><BR/>Wait - you go on and on about Diane and her writing and the content of her columns, and then write you don't read her columns? Huh? <BR/><BR/>Or is that just that she hurt your little feelings about Palin? Talk about a gas bag!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-22229413004721361572009-04-03T10:07:00.000-07:002009-04-03T10:07:00.000-07:00Diane Stafford is a leftist old hag. It always loo...Diane Stafford is a leftist old hag. It always looks like she writes her Schmaltz after reading a couple of junk reports from her comrades. What she knows about business is what other leftists anti-business jerks write. I think she reads a couple of trash items from eggheads that have never held a real job, regurgitates the same old line, and goes to press. I have not read anything she writes for a long time, who does? She writes nothing from firsthand knowledge it seemed to me. She is just like the rest of the great pretenders, fill in the blank writing, no one will know the difference. Her column degrading another woman was disgusting, for all women, and journalists alike.<BR/><BR/>A bag full of gas might one day fly off into the air, or get fired, one can only hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-34049688958723530802009-04-03T09:55:00.000-07:002009-04-03T09:55:00.000-07:00"She can't give you your job back Les, but if you ..."She can't give you your job back Les, but if you talk to her, ask her how much she would give to get her reputation back? Did she ever think that jumping on the attack wagon when shilling for Obama would come back to bite her like it has? Or is that why she is still employed?"<BR/><BR/>Ah, you're so clever, but alas, you're so wrong - it was not Les who posted about all of you hateful, and dare I say, ignorant-of-the-industry people. As for Diane and her views, as a columnist she has the right to write about her views. As for "Palin?" You're kidding - what's to like? Or respect? Or even consider seriously? She's a joke. I'm not a Republican (although I have voted for members of the party) but I know plenty of Republicans who cringe at her name. But of course, I'm a former member of the "liberal elite" media. BTW, even McCain won't come out and support her. I think that speaks volumes, but what do I know - I'm just a crazy liberal...<BR/><BR/>A sidebar and example of us crazy, wacky liberal media types: Interestingly, one of the last stories I wrote as a reporter was one involving the issue of gay marriage. I went to great lengths to make sure my views did not come through in any way, shape or form. And I was so successful - perhaps too much so - that a woman who professed to be a Christian (albeit, a very judgmental one at that - isn't that anti-Christian?) called and thanked me for being on her side against gays having the right to live their lives like "normal" people, you know those ones who have a 50 percent divorce rate! <BR/><BR/>And for the poster who wondered about Diane's age - I'm curious, what's your point in asking? Hmmm, you wouldn't be making a judgment that someone who graduated from one of the best schools in the U.S., who has years of institutional knowledge and experience has nothing relevant to say? Oh, I'm sure you must be correct, because what, you're 27 and oh so wise in all the ways of the world? Ah well, at least you were on Twitter bandwagon before all the oldies turned it into a "jump the shark" moment. How tweet!<BR/><BR/><BR/>But I'm off track - how did a posting about a headline - whether correct or no(t) (ha ha!) digress into such a hateful diatribe against Diane Stafford and daily newspapers in general. Typical of when people can post anonymously. And yes, I'm going to stay among the cowards and remain anonymous...<BR/><BR/>Ok, haters, hate away!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-57658266363589192132009-04-03T09:27:00.000-07:002009-04-03T09:27:00.000-07:00Are you saying that it was Copy Editors all along ...Are you saying that it was Copy Editors all along that have been butchering and misleading people with their headlines PG?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-16898526929535043792009-04-03T08:46:00.000-07:002009-04-03T08:46:00.000-07:00OK, one more time: That's what happens when all th...OK, one more time: That's what happens when all the copy editors are laid off. Look for more of the same. And just imagine what an all-digital product will be like with IT people doing all the posting??!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-41756772947375146912009-04-03T07:17:00.000-07:002009-04-03T07:17:00.000-07:00418, Yes, she is a friend and a former colleague, ...418, Yes, she is a friend and a former colleague, and I consider most of her columns to be interesting and informative. But I did not write the post to which you referred. I always sign my postings, which have been few lately because my wife's medical needs are taking up most of my time. <BR/><BR/>Have a nice day.<BR/><BR/>Les WeatherfordLes Weatherfordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-24469580603883836202009-04-03T06:28:00.000-07:002009-04-03T06:28:00.000-07:00“Wow. Many of you people are nuts. And I think 'Li...“Wow. Many of you people are nuts. And I think 'Like it or no' has been around forever. Open your ears.”<BR/>**<BR/>Open our ears? <BR/>No one I know talks shit like that. Only the over-the-hill-gang clings to old timey expressions that have been around forever. Maybe Plato said that. Your old timey readers don’t even want out of date news, using out of date words either. Get out of ‘the business,’ into your rockers, and leave the driving to us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-88542497183786580662009-04-03T02:37:00.000-07:002009-04-03T02:37:00.000-07:007:58 comment also deleted for violating the rules....7:58 comment also deleted for violating the rules. Hey, you are welcome to come here and defend the Star but follow the rules.Kevin Gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04694898785243338105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-63027495608000171212009-04-03T02:33:00.000-07:002009-04-03T02:33:00.000-07:009:53 comment deleted for violating the rules.9:53 comment deleted for violating the rules.Kevin Gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04694898785243338105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-13967337909522449152009-04-02T22:06:00.000-07:002009-04-02T22:06:00.000-07:00Wow. Many of you people are nuts. And I think 'Lik...Wow. Many of you people are nuts. And I think 'Like it or no' has been around forever. Open your ears.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-15701656626905838012009-04-02T21:53:00.000-07:002009-04-02T21:53:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-56790765326677293132009-04-02T20:34:00.000-07:002009-04-02T20:34:00.000-07:007:58 Is that you Mike Hendricks? It sure sounds li...7:58 Is that you Mike Hendricks? It sure sounds like you. Third grade temper tantrum with a big word thrown in at the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4726844761468242273.post-87859049936315866222009-04-02T20:20:00.000-07:002009-04-02T20:20:00.000-07:00Yes 7:58 you've certainly shown everyone what inte...Yes 7:58 you've certainly shown everyone what intelligence is with your witty repartee. Great command of the language. "Low-life, stupid shitbags.." <BR/><BR/>Now there's wit you just don't see too often anymore outside of a bowling alley. If Derek Donovan ever steps down, you'd be right in line to be The Star's "Reader's" Rep, you silver tongued devil, you.John Altevogtnoreply@blogger.com