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Saturday, April 11, 2009
Saturday April 11 -- Got news or an update?
If you have news or an update, leave it in comments. . . .
16 comments:
Anonymous
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A McClatchy banner with (it’s) itty-bitty error. It wouldn’t seem like much of an error, but liberal journalists at this blog rag on posters for making its/it’s errors in a casual comment post, as if it somehow disqualifies the commenter’s opinion. Now, what do they have to say about a McClatchy banner being so un-journalist-like? The Sinking Star’s staff didn’t proofread a simple congratulations banner. Who is minding the store? ---- 'COPY EDITORS? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING COPY EDITORS!' This banner proudly hangs in the Kansas City Star building and lets ad folks know that McClatchy appreciates their sales efforts. While the newspaper may be making money, it doesn't seem to be able to handle contractions (its) very well these days.
Noting the almost daily errors of the KC Star, a so-called metropolitan newspaper, exposes far greater problems than punctuation. Where are the editors? Why has the Star fallen so far from even average journalism standards? There is no excuse for this shoddy work. There is no explaining away what readers see with their own eyes. The Star may not want to pay for experienced employees, but a mistake riddled newspaper is not the wave of the future. How does the Star plan to compete with the new media, when they are failing in the old?
Unprofessional journalism errors are now described as “trivial crap.” I don’t think the KC Star has hit the bottom yet, if the journalists accept substandard work, and casts blame instead on the readers who demand a better product.
This IS trivial crap. It's not a "journalism error." Not very bright, are you? Let me try to explain in simple terms. The banner was produced for the ad department, which is not even in the same room as the journalists (those would be, duh, reporters, editors, photographers, copyeditors etc). The ad department is salespeople. Not journalists. It was ordered by a secretary, pretty much how a banner would be ordered in your workplace — if you had one. Either she misspelled it or the people in the shop she ordered it from, an outside business, did. So you morons figure that it's a sign of the impending apocalypse? Yaaaawnnn.
Re: 8:14, Whichever party made the mistake is not important. Yes, it is very sad that some administrative assistant doesn't have a basic grasp of common 4th grade grammar and more importantly doesn't know how to use "spelling and grammar check" but it is management that allowed that banner to be installed without questioning that "boo boo".
what's sad, whether it was a "liberal journalist" (geez, I'm really tired of that) or an over-worked secretary is that newspapers used to pride themselves on correct grammar and punctuation. The mistake in the banner is just one more symptom of the industry's very deep decline.
9:30, that banner would have likely been hung in most any ad department in any newspaper 70 years ago, 30 years ago or 10 years ago. Or in most any other company. Like there's some mythical time when people didnt just shake their heads at a minor error and move on instead of blowing another hundred bucks on a replacment banner. If they had replaced the banner you'd probably be whining about management wasting money that could have been been used to save jobs. It isn't a sign of anything at all. Have you ever held a real job in the real world? Geezus. Why don't you worry about something serious, like the money they blew on the jet? l
You are so right 11:07. We want all the heart surgeons. aircraft manufacturers, food processors, air bag manufacturers, brake manufacturers, etc., etc., etc., not to worry about the small things.Just consider the serious stuff. Got it. Thanks for the tip. Zero defects does not apply to newspapers.They know what they are doing.You can see the results.
16 comments:
A McClatchy banner with (it’s) itty-bitty error. It wouldn’t seem like much of an error, but liberal journalists at this blog rag on posters for making its/it’s errors in a casual comment post, as if it somehow disqualifies the commenter’s opinion. Now, what do they have to say about a McClatchy banner being so un-journalist-like? The Sinking Star’s staff didn’t proofread a simple congratulations banner. Who is minding the store?
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'COPY EDITORS? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING COPY EDITORS!'
This banner proudly hangs in the Kansas City Star building and lets ad folks know that McClatchy appreciates their sales efforts.
While the newspaper may be making money, it doesn't seem to be able to handle contractions (its) very well these days.
http://bottomlinecom.com/kcnews/whoneedscopyeditors.html
Click here to see a photo of the McClatchy banner with the jacked-up contraction ("it's" instead of "its").
Too bad your own long personal list of errors isn't as public. More trivial crap from small minds.
April 19, the Kansas City Star announced Saturday, the vending machine price of the Sunday edition will rise to $2. Less for more seems to fit.
Noting the almost daily errors of the KC Star, a so-called metropolitan newspaper, exposes far greater problems than punctuation. Where are the editors? Why has the Star fallen so far from even average journalism standards? There is no excuse for this shoddy work. There is no explaining away what readers see with their own eyes. The Star may not want to pay for experienced employees, but a mistake riddled newspaper is not the wave of the future. How does the Star plan to compete with the new media, when they are failing in the old?
Unprofessional journalism errors are now described as “trivial crap.” I don’t think the KC Star has hit the bottom yet, if the journalists accept substandard work, and casts blame instead on the readers who demand a better product.
Errors, what errors?
Pretend you don’t see them.
Journalism 101
I don’t think so!
This IS trivial crap. It's not a "journalism error."
Not very bright, are you?
Let me try to explain in simple terms.
The banner was produced for the ad department, which is not even in the same room as the journalists (those would be, duh, reporters, editors, photographers, copyeditors etc).
The ad department is salespeople. Not journalists.
It was ordered by a secretary, pretty much how a banner would be ordered in your workplace — if you had one.
Either she misspelled it or the people in the shop she ordered it from, an outside business, did.
So you morons figure that it's a sign of the impending apocalypse?
Yaaaawnnn.
Personally, I would not hang a banner with an obvious error in my workplace.
Re: 8:14,
Whichever party made the mistake is not important. Yes, it is very sad that some administrative assistant doesn't have a basic grasp of common 4th grade grammar and more importantly doesn't know how to use "spelling and grammar check" but it is management that allowed that banner to be installed without questioning that "boo boo".
what's sad, whether it was a "liberal journalist" (geez, I'm really tired of that) or an over-worked secretary is that newspapers used to pride themselves on correct grammar and punctuation. The mistake in the banner is just one more symptom of the industry's very deep decline.
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9:30, that banner would have likely been hung in most any ad department in any newspaper 70 years ago, 30 years ago or 10 years ago. Or in most any other company.
Like there's some mythical time when people didnt just shake their heads at a minor error and move on instead of blowing another hundred bucks on a replacment banner.
If they had replaced the banner you'd probably be whining about management wasting money that could have been been used to save jobs.
It isn't a sign of anything at all. Have you ever held a real job in the real world? Geezus.
Why don't you worry about something serious, like the money they blew on the jet?
l
You are so right 11:07. We want all the heart surgeons. aircraft manufacturers, food processors, air bag manufacturers, brake manufacturers, etc., etc., etc., not to worry about the small things.Just consider the serious stuff. Got it. Thanks for the tip. Zero defects does not apply to newspapers.They know what they are doing.You can see the results.
Accepting shoddy work is a Red Star given.
It is just like liberals to try and whine away any responsibility. Who knew a secretary was in charge of the Scar?
Bleat, bleat: O-baa-ma, O-baa-ma, come save us! You owe us big time.
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