Monday, September 7, 2009

Lee Judge 2008 flashback... wishing Limbaugh was dead?

Kansas City Star cartoonist Lee Judge has recently published cartoons that ridiculed Christian ministers and bashed Catholics. I've concluded Judge is a bigot.

Just for human interest, and maybe for a glimpse into the character of Lee Judge, below is a 2008 cartoon which appears to depict Judge's wish that Rush Limbaugh was dead.

Judge's cartoon is demented. Most Americans were saddened at the death of Tim Russert -- including me. But I can't imagine taking the occasion of Russert's death to wish, as Judge apparently did, that Limbaugh was dead. Ed Morrissey posted the cartoon at Hot Air and said this:

One does not have to agree with Russert to mourn his passing and note that it is a tremendous loss for political journalism. One also does not have to agree with Rush to understand that he has built his audience honestly, through hard work and free speech, in maybe the only nation where this could even be possible. For those who don’t understand that, wishing death on one’s political opponents is the only reaction open to them, I suppose, and for that they should be pitied — and then ignored.


Anonymous said...

If newspapers don’t wish to report the news, then why would anyone care to pay actual money to read them?

And what exactly would they be reading? Classifieds? Auto ads? Country club socialite columns?

I mean… if I’m interested in propaganda, I can listen to NPR and pull up the AP’s website for free.

If I’m interested in local classifieds, I can pull up Craigslist and other sites.

Why on earth would I pay $35+ a month for this service I already receive?

Anonymous said...

It's a newspapers job to make themselves relevant.

Cutting down trees to publish day-old news or biased cartoons doesn’t work.

As for McClatchy, it's not the economy, (Van Jones coverage) they simply are utter failures!

John Altevogt said...

For all the libs demanding examples of the hatefulness of The Star here is yet another one.

This is a newspaper that pilloried a 73 year old grandmother who simply supports the rule of law. Day in and day out the Star manufactured one hate-o-gram after another and Lee Judge's cartoons were simply a part of the package. The Star would not allow a Christian conservative to even sit on a lowly Park Board position lest she overthrow KCMO's corrupt establishment.

Yet this same filthy rag remained silent when Charles "Groper" Carlsen, the disgraced former JCCC president, a man who resigned amidst allegations that he had sexually harassed 4 different women, was appointed to the Johnson County Arts Commission. And these events occurred at virtually the same time.

Not one word from the editorial department for a sexual predator, but an all out hate campaign against a 73 year old grandmother, without blemish, whose passion was to raise roses.

That is The Star that supposedly speaks truth to power, but in reality is little more than a handmaiden to corruption in a city known for its corruption.

Liars, bigots, whores, but honest journalism? Not from The Star.

Anonymous said...

Here's the problem as I see it. Christian conservatives feel the need to share and spread their views everywhere. Even trying to change laws to make their views the law of the land but they suddenly claim religious discrimination when someone takes a jab at them. In my lifetime I've been told(to my face)I'm going to hell and watched as fanatics call abortion doctors baby killers and even killing those doctors. So forgive me, if people like me have a dim view of Christians and Catholics. We live in a free society, you don't get to take pot shots at others and not expect blow back. It is because of people like the one's mentioned above that I will never set foot in a church again.

Anonymous said...


Lesson for Van Jones: Don't get too uppity (Kansas City Star)

...Of course, for Beck and the rest of the white-America crowd, Jones got a little too uppity, especially when a group co-founded by Jones went after Beck and got some advertisers to pull out of supporting his show.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:54 And does that same view hold true for muzzies who would decapitate you?

Anonymous said...

Of course, for Beck and the rest of the white-America crowd, Jones got a little too uppity,

Yup, it was all Whitey's fault. Good luck with that.

Anonymous said...

Upity, upity?

Van Jones Did Not Fill Out WH Questionnaire [No Czars Have Done Questionnaire] White House Blog, Major Garrett

An administration official said special advisers to the president, or czars, are not required to fill out the questionnaire that runs 7 pages and contains 63 questions.

The entire questionnaire, the official said, is reserved for appointees who must win Senate confirmation. ---

However, Fox News correspondent James Rosen spoke with spokesman Mike Berger on Friday and Berger said Jones knew what the petition said and agreed with its contents.

"He did agree with that statement and he did sign on to it," Berger said in a phone interview with Rosen. Berger said the group's "original board members individually confirmed all signatories that had signed on to the statement."

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:11 Since I don't live in a Muslim country and don't plan on going to one anytime soon - Not a problem.

Since there a so many in my own country (the U.S.) I'll stick to dealing with the ones here.

John Altevogt said...

10:54 How uppity of us that in a supposedly democratic society we would want to "change laws to make their views the law of the land". Besides our right to express ourselves and participate in the political process, what other rights of ours do you want to deprive us of?

I don't know if you're going to hell, but if Obama ever wants to start concentration camps for people of faith you could probably submit your post as part of your resume.

PS, abortion doctors are baby killers. What did you think those things in there were, iPods, video cameras...?

Sorry you don't want to come to church again, but I think you're missing more than we are.

Anonymous said...

...The Star would not allow a Christian conservative to even sit on a lowly Park Board position...

What else was she, John? (Hint: a controversial organization she belonged to?) And, John, whether or not she is "allowed" to sit on a board is up to the board or the political leaders who appoint or confirm her. And reporting on a controversy is not "hate." Although, to you, "hate" is any disagreement with you or your views.

John Altevogt said...

11:46 Reporting is not hate, but manufacturing hateful stories day-in and day out is. Piling on with manufactured stories and editorial cartoons and editorials and columns is, particularly when it is compared to how they treated Groper Carlsen.

And thank you for pointing out that it is up to political leader who appointed her. The mayor to his credit did not cave into the threats and intimidation from the various racist groups like La Raza that demanded her head and even went to her house to try and terrorize her.

I also wasn't going to mention it, but since you brought it up, Grandma Semler was a member of the Minutemen, a group dedicated to enforcing the rule of law. Groper Carlsen was a member of the Meneillyite hate group, but then again many of The Star's columnists and reporters are de facto members of that group, participating in its meetings and promoting it in the paper. So even there the comparative treatment was skewed.

Anonymous said...

Wow John Altevogt I just read your post.

You are more than entitled to vote and try to change laws all you want.

My problem is when you try to change laws (exercise your rights) IT IS ALWAYS at the expense of someone else's rights. Sorry I have a problem with that.

And if my memory is correct, if you are a believer in god, you should working to get into god's kingdom. Not trying to change a world that god's going to change/destroy anyway. Hmmm.

As far as Obama starting concentration camps for people of faith. I see no sign of it and IF he did you can bet your butt I would be the first in line to OPPOSE it. It's not acceptable in any way shape or form.

As far as the baby killer comment. That's what I'm talking about!

Just because you think it's killing a baby doesn't make it so and what gives you the right to subject your beliefs on everyone else.

And Nope I don't think it's an Ipod but I don't think it's a baby either. I think it's a bunch of cells. Even if it is a baby it's not my job to tell someone else what to do with their body and it's not your job either.

And nope, not missing church. I went for 17 years of my life and when I started noticing people who don't act like Christ try to tell others how they should act/live I gave it up.

Anonymous said...

I think it's a bunch of cells.

A bunch of cells cannot live outside the womb, cry in pain, laugh or in conclusion....never mind...continue as you are. Killing off your own future leftists, born of the hood and doomed to live off the dole.

Anonymous said...

When does it stop being a bunch of cells and being a baby?

Anonymous said...

...When does it stop being a bunch of cells and being a baby?...

That's between you and your god (or conscience, if you don't have a god). Religious bodies and their leaders disagee. Ask your pastor for guidance, and then make up your own mind. Just don't call people "baby kiillers" if they don't agree with your conclusion.

Anonymous said...

Just don't call people "baby kiillers" if they don't agree with your conclusion.

If it can live outside the womb and you advocate killing it should you desire, you are an advocate and surrogate to murder. It is really very simple even for the simple leftist mind.

Anonymous said...

We call people baby killers if they kill babies. And we prosecute them.

Aren't you a little caviler about deciding when they are just an inconvienient bunch of cells. Might my convenience be the determining factor in killing a child?

Where should the law divide life from a bunch of cells?

John Altevogt said...

12:08 Well, just think of George Tiller as a bunch of cells that was given a later term abortion and that should solve that issue for you.

With all due respects, when you makes statements that all of the members of any group "always" do anything that is the essence of bigotry. I don't doubt that you've run into folks who are Christians who you found distasteful. They obviously felt the same about you, but that doesn't indict all Christians, nor does it repudiate the message.

All legislation is restrictive to some group and assuming that if Christians didn't work to pass legislation that the world would be perfect is just silly.

That said, while we obviously disagree on many points, I appreciate the thoughtfulness and time you took to at least construct arguments and engage in dialog. That's far better than we get from most of the lefties around here.

Anonymous said...

Lee Judge isn't an especially talented artist or a nuanced political thinker, but I think it's silly to expect him to draw something that goes against what his views are. The whole concept of the political cartoon is to be make a political point by exaggerating reality. If you want to have the Star publish cartoons with a conservative outlook (although I'm not sure I would characterize most of the people in these comments as conservative), draw one yourself. As Judge proves, the paper doesn't have especially high artistic standards.
And by the way, this is the same Lee Judge who, around primary time last year, said he was supporting McCain over Obama.

Anonymous said...

Of course I don't expect a cartoonist to publish a cartoon that disagrees with his point of view! This thread is about his point of view in wishing that someone was dead. The problem here is not a's that a person actively wished death on his political enemy and that the newspaper published it.Who cares if he hates to listen to Limbaugh. I don't like it either. I don't want him to change his politics but this is just out of bounds.